The death last Monday of the famous actor/comedian, Robin Williams has opened yet another opportunity to discuss depression.
Robin Williams had died from an apparent suicide last Monday morning (PT) at his Bay Area, CA home. He was 63. He was dealing with financial problems, and also was dealing with his cancelation of his TV show, The Crazy Ones, likely due to low overnight ratings. Other reports claim he was dealing with an onset of Parkinson’s (unable to confirm that here.) He was in many films from Jumanji (which apparently according to the Union Leader, was filmed in Southwest NH), Mrs. Doubtfire, Bicentennial Man, voiced over the Genie in Disney’s Aladdin , and many more movies and will appear in 6 more films ready to be released in the coming year. Older readers may recall him in the 70s TV series Mork & Mindy, which was the catalyst to his career.
Williams had said in the past he was dealing with depression and went into rehab 8 years ago. He dealt with drugs and alcohol. A month ago, it was confirmed he was going back into rehab, citing “tuning up” his sobriety. In any case it was likely too late, as something caused him to kill himself last week.
It would not be appropriate to discuss – or speculate why he did it nor mentioning if he was a coward or not to do that. I’d like to turn the focus on to the topical status of depression.
Whether or not depression is part of autism, or autism causes depression, or it’s a similar but different, or it’s caused genetically (like from your crazy uncle – literally) or not, the fact is depression and autism can go in tandem. There is no doubt about that, despite how many PhD hacks you talk to. Depression and ASD can be caused by various factors, becoming an adolescent, coming to a realization that you are “different” or just the poor execution of your support system’s ability to help you.
I know people who are in their late twenties in some level of depression. I myself have dealt with this on and off at least for the last 15 years. If you had followed this blog for the last few years, I’ve really held “the system” accountable for lot of the damages caused to me.
There is a taboo in the developmental disabled and the mental disorder community whether or not both practices should merge. Psychiatric, mental disorders and developmental disorders 3 different things traditionally. There are various methods in treating them, but they are all different. That doesn’t mean that they should come together or be recognized as dual issues. Because these disorders are so separate, the delivery system for services and support are separate. Whose to say someone with severe autism is also dealing with depression? Whose to say someone with Down’s could be bipolar? Also why are we so focused on the disorder and so worried about going to the right agency to get services or should I say the best services since in some areas, mental disorders and developmental disorders are handled by two different services?
Also its been a cliche all week long about how mental health services are not addressed properly. I’d go even further and say mental health services for people with autism are also limited too. In my area, there are a handful of psychologists that ether specialize in autism, or has a working knowledge of autism. (The other handful focuses on ADHD and Asperger’s Syndrome, which I’m leaving out because people with AS can choose to not be a odd, weird talking liberal moonbat, and act like everyone else. Sorry I don’t respect people with AS.)
Despite the contrary, New Hampshire in the downstate region is part of the Greater Boston metro region, and even in the most world class cities in the world, this area and probably even the Mass. Merrimack Valley also lacks in mental health services for dual dx’d mental and developmentally ill clients. I blame part of the Boston snobbery that insists civility doesn’t exist north and west of I-495.
In closing, there needs to be a national discussion with trying to eliminate the stigma of depression; and another track to discuss why so many people with autism or other related disorders are falling into the cracks and why so many arrogant leaders are not realizing there is a depression problem with the autistic community. Especially in the twentysomething crowds, where many grew up in the dark ages of autism being a mysterious and unknown disorder and had parents not knowing where to go and school districts not putting focus on them. If we can’t take this opportunity to discuss this problem, there will be another tragedy that won’t get mentioned because they aren’t a celebrity.
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Birthday
My birthday is near and in the coming weeks I will be 26 years of age. It will be the 5 year mark where I had turned 21 and finished school on the same day. It is very scary to think how in half a decade how I have fallen apart and came to a hard realization about how I have to accept my differences, and accept my future outlooks in life. (I think you know its really about “relationships”.)
I don’t talk like I used to because I am tired of talking to slight egomaniacs. I am tired of hearing someone’s “honest” or someone pushing an agenda on me. I might be venting a little about my mother, but that’s really besides my point.
I am asking for much this year, nor do I really give a shit about it ether. As I wrote in last October, about my struggles of people remembering my birthday; I’ve just accepted the fact “its just another day”. That happened last year, I went on a trip to the mountains after doing some shopping at the state’s surplus agency getting networking gear. I brushed off the the 25th anniversary of my existence.
I am not happy about the big two-six. And this isn’t just the normal PDD obsession leading to one’s bday. It’s actually worse.
I realize I won’t be happy. Its not because I choose not to, its because I am forced to not be happy. The leadership on the ASD self-interest has effectively slandered my group, and has effectively committed uncriminal behavior like psychological ID theft. These goddamned sons of bitches have forced me to grow up faster than my peers (since it is “normal” to still act like an adolescent at 35 years old, if you don’t have a disability) and yet these same sons – of – bitches treat people like me as crap when they aren’t “on the clock”. These people insist we work for some corporation and be highly accountable at all times.
These freckin bastards also believe we should only fall in love in our own peer group. I’m talking about the PDD group. As you already know (I assume) the numbers of PDD male to female ratio is about 4 out of 5 male to female. I probably would say 3 out of 5 are females, since I see more of them in the adult services than I have seen in the special education. But still, I am put at a disadvantage.
My only wishes for my birthday is:
- Please, I ask the middle age women, who are ugly, bitter and hateful people who act exactly the same as I just described: to stop acting as advocates for special needs! I also understand you might have an empty nest syndrome, but just stop saying for one example that autistic people can’t fall in love. DO NOT slander these people in private workshops BY CLEARLY saying its “not appropriate ” for us to attend when I feel you will painting EVERYONE with PDD with the most thickest brush to exist! Especially when WE STRUGGLE (in some cases for unneeded purposes) with RELATIONSHIPS and recklessly plan such workshop on mother fuckin’ VALENTINE’S DAY! It is your peers that have made me so mad and sad and not glad that the only life I can have is to be a fucking slave!I stand by my “fucking” beliefs, because you force me to use such needed coarse language!
- I want people to LISTEN. Especially WOMEN! I don’t give a shit you have a cunt and tits, to me its sexist for me to expect me to listen to you and its fine for you not to listen to me and go off and talk, talk and talk and push your egomaniac agenda. If you want to be treated like everyone else, you have to not label yourself and act like everyone else, and sadly in this case men. (I hate using gender/age specific language, but it is these overeducated punks from Harvard, and other Middlesex County, Mass like regions around the world that unnecessarily done this reversed sexism!)
- As narrow-minded and possibly sexist and racist as it is, I would love to have a woman to be my romantic mate. (I can’t say “girlfriend” without being charged for “hate speech” because you can’t say a “girl” to a “woman”.) Therefore, I would like to have an adult female companion I should just say, look into a slow relationship. For all I could know, having a romantic relationship may not work at all, and I could’ve wasted 10 years for nothing!
- The “experts” need to get their head out of their asses. I can’t say this enough. I also ask for paraprofessionals, professionals, teachers and other cold-hearted people between the hours of 9:00 to 5:00 local time to maybe learn that autistic people are just like you, and instead of not having friends in your outside life that are autistic, to maybe give it a chance? I’m not talking about HS aged people or current professional relationships, but have some freckin unity as we desperately need in my country! I only wished I could be integrated with “normal” Latinos, Blacks, Asians and other people of various backgrounds, and not be forced into a group I find is regressive and a group that won’t rightfully go forward according to my social, political and systemic standards.
I’ve realized I have done some bitching, but many punks in my life have no idea what they have done to me, and how its ok to not be accountable of their actions, their words and their actions. It is men with a certain social standard who have wrongfully been abused and used!
I do not hate women! And I mean that. I respect them! They are very caring people, and they have great talents! Younger ladies is rare, thirtysomethings you have better luck I only have a problem when they go on a political or systemic tirade against one social class for no realistic reason in the general population, and get away with it. Sadly, many are near or post menopausal and they generically look ugly, because they act as if they are fat and ugly. I hate to be so biased, but since ASD and PDD individuals are mostly male, I feel so personally offended to be an adult male because we have to treat women as God.
I only ask to be somewhat happy for my Birthday. But apparently in America that is asking for too much according to all the experts I have to comply since America is now a “1984” society.
P.S. there is one other thing I would want for my birthday. To have more traffic on this blog and more discussions from my readers, because if it weren’t for you (if you even read my blogs) this blog wouldn’t exist.
End of my political/personal rant.
(Ill)legal Drugs: GlaxoSmithKline gets thrown into the slammer
The Government press charges against the company, but doesn’t press charges against anyone who was involved.
Glaxo was plead guilty in a criminal charges for misleading the government for various antidepressants. Now I find this funny, that they a) get criminally charged, b) they have to pay the Government about $1 billion for criminal fines, but yet no one goes into the slammer. Hey, Presidential Candidate Romney says “People are business”, does that ring true to Glaxo? Oh wait, they are a big business, Romney was referring to the small businesses!
In anyway, in Tuesday’s Marketplace section above the fold in The Wall Street Journal, GlaxoSmithKline had severely mislead the government of the the legal use of the drugs. They were, according to the Journal:
- Paxil
- Wellbutrin
- and the diabetes drug Avandia.
The Journal reports that the costliest health care fraud cases has been the biggest in many years. The U.S. Government had found the company guilty as “the company piling doctors with perks such as free spa treatments, Colorado ski trips, pheasant-hunting jaunts to Europe and Madonna concert tickets” that the Justice Department said
Quoting a paragraph from the Journal:
“At a news conference on Monday, and in documents posted online, the government said Glaxo spent six years – 1998 to 2003 [sic] – unlawfully promoting Paxil for patients under 18 when the drug wasn’t approved for non-adults. It said Glaxo helped prepare an article published in a medical journal in 2001 that falsely reported Paxil had proven effective at treating depression in children in a clinical trial when the trial showed no such thing.”
In reference to the other non-authorized purposes, the government accused that Glaxo had mis promoted Wellbutrin, “approved to solely to treat depression – for number of other reasons” such as another Viagra! The Journal quoted the government said “Glaxo sales representatives sometimes referred to Wellbutrin as ‘the happy, horny, skinny pill’ as to remind doctors of the unapproved uses.”
GlaxoSmithKline, PLC had to pay another $2 billion US dollars to to cover civil penalties such as misleading Medicaid (a US Government agency and program, hence the fines) that had mistakenly misauthroized the uses of the drugs. Additional fines included kickbacks to doctors to prescribe nine different drugs, according to the WSJ report.
In a side bar, the Journal quotes the “76-page complaint”.
Promoted Wellbutrion SR as an antidepressant, to treat obesity or sexual disorders. Example: Hired a PR firm and paid [TV’s] Dr. Drew Pinsky to ‘build buzz’ for off-label uses”
Marketed Paxil, an antidepressant, as safe for children, despite trials that raised concerns about suicide. Example: Give free samples to child psychiatrists”
I added the boldface
Glaxo had agreed to go into a Five Step Program, seriously they need to do a “five year ‘corporate integrity agreement’ in which it pledges to specific behavior” to change various policies such as compensation plans and show their financial statements post-charges and show where the money is going.
Takeaway
What drives me nuts, is why can’t the US Government not criminally prosecute “people” instead of just the company? Why did no one blow the whistle or get “cooperating witnesses” or get “bagmen” to ambush them. (Being from Boston, I know about mobs inside and out – as an outsider of course!) Why didn’t the government go after the doctors who were involved in favors and didn’t get them prosecuted? This is really a sick problem, and the free market has been abused, and I really wished this was taken even to a higher level of criminal prosecution, really in the sense of throwing people into federal prison for life! People had actually died because of the suicide (a lawsuit occurred with another company I can’t remember the details.)
This is what we call “corporate prostitution” – pay someone to suck up another in order to lure what the doctor wants. What’s worse is how a doctor’s office is whored with those tissue boxes, pens and oh I can’t say any more, because that’s going to be another post alone!
In all seriousness, this is a huge issue. Paxil was given to many children, and many with PDD, HFA, Asperger’s in the late 90s and they became very unstable, more unstable than not being on Paxil. I can disclose that I am currently on Welburtrion, but the first drug I had been on was Paxil. I’ll tell you that I had countless suicide attempts, and many aggressive episodes, that I suffered with hyperventilation, especially during restraints (the ignorant/arrogant staff thought because I was fighting with them during the restraint holds, was the cause. ) Not only those cause issues, but the worst case was that I had no eyebrows or eyelashes as I had plucked them out -for a crazy reason, this medicine gave me some weird side-effects.
Part of my middle school years were tainted because I was on drugs that now were – actually illegal to take. I also was dealing with a neurologist who didn’t understand PDD type of children, but yet I went through various doctors, and my psychologist (who is a prominent voice of autism, but doesn’t posses a M.D. background) was actually giving my mother and I recommendations for various medicines, that she shouldn’t been suggesting to use period given her PhD background.
Medicine isn’t the total solution, and I will explain more later, but this is a good starting point to discuss the drug industry, the “doctors” and the smartasses of the autism community.
If you interested in this story, this appeared in Tuesday’s Marketplace section of The Wall Street Journal. I quoted directly from the print edition with my dictating skills which is good to do with reading and typing skills.
Why Aren’t People Falling in Love (romantically) with the Autistic Population?
I wrote a post back in February of last year about why autistic people don’t fall in love. This particular post has been one of the most searched and read posts on the web since this was published on Valentine’s Day of last year. There are people out there wondering if they can fall in love or not.
Well I don’t have that clear answer for that. Some do fall in love and some do not. It varies by their dis/abilities. Someone with Asperger Syndrome may be able to have some relationship and can vary to someone with a form of PDD that can’t stand girls.
I do have one possible answer, it has to do with society. Society has been trained that anyone with special needs should not be able to pursue love. Another issue is the potential emotional effects between the one with the disorder and the other with or without the similar disorder. Another problem is that many people who are nurses, special education teachers or para-professionals have self esteem problems themselves, that they don’t want to deal with such baggage off the clock.
And also if one is living in the Suburbia or grew up in the suburbs doesn’t help them – it sure made me worse for sure! Ultra rich towns have been frowned upon the progress of special needs mostly in the autism side, since that’s a “hidden disability.” Since many are able to walk or don’t need physical assistance, they aren’t aware about the internal disorder or disease or disability.
For my case, I do feel afraid of romance due to the excessive teasing and picking on when I was younger and girl crazy. I had so many “crushes” that you could call me a slut. However, after that, I would start to feel ashamed if I liked someone. Love is a real complicated and complex issue that I still can’t understand to this day.
So in closing, I have no real answer why people can’t fall in love with autistics or people with autism.
Why Aren’t People Falling in Love (romantically) with the Autistic Population?
I wrote a post back in February of last year about why autistic people don’t fall in love. This particular post has been one of the most searched and read posts on the web since this was published on Valentine’s Day of last year. There are people out there wondering if they can fall in love or not.
Well I don’t have that clear answer for that. Some do fall in love and some do not. It varies by their dis/abilities. Someone with Asperger Syndrome may be able to have some relationship and can vary to someone with a form of PDD that can’t stand girls.
I do have one possible answer, it has to do with society. Society has been trained that anyone with special needs should not be able to pursue love. Another issue is the potential emotional effects between the one with the disorder and the other with or without the similar disorder. Another problem is that many people who are nurses, special education teachers or para-professionals have self esteem problems themselves, that they don’t want to deal with such baggage off the clock.
And also if one is living in the Suburbia or grew up in the suburbs doesn’t help them – it sure made me worse for sure! Ultra rich towns have been frowned upon the progress of special needs mostly in the autism side, since that’s a “hidden disability.” Since many are able to walk or don’t need physical assistance, they aren’t aware about the internal disorder or disease or disability.
For my case, I do feel afraid of romance due to the excessive teasing and picking on when I was younger and girl crazy. I had so many “crushes” that you could call me a slut. However, after that, I would start to feel ashamed if I liked someone. Love is a real complicated and complex issue that I still can’t understand to this day.
So in closing, I have no real answer why people can’t fall in love with autistics or people with autism.
Autism Awareness Month: The Asperger Syndrome vs Autism debate
I want to turn the attention by going into the wayback machine to 1994.
In the early 90s, when I was getting several evaluations for diagnosis because I was such a misfit, I couldn’t fit into the proper “label”. In about 1994, around the time the current DSM was in the process of being published, my SPED case manager had given my mother the following handout about Asperger Syndrome. She had said to her that “Steven doesn’t fit but there are some similarities” like statement. Again, this was in the early 90s, way before autism, AS or whatever disorder or disease became into the mainstream.
Thanks to modern technologies such as a low grade OfficeJet machine, I can scan in documents from the ancient past and with auto OCR technologies, in a few minutes I can get PDF with searchable and editable text. I am going to copy and paste the document in its entirety since the information is a rather interesting giving this was only two decades ago. I won’t make any editoral statements, to let you read it in its originality. I Report – You Decide.
(Note: Since I had scanned this document into a readable OCR format, some of the characters didn’t come out as accurate. Steps were taken to ensure that this document is accurate as it was on the original hard copy.)
ASPERGER SYNDROME
Stephen Bauer, M.D . M.P.H.
The Developmental Unit
The Genesee Hospital
Rochester, New YorkIntroduction:
Asperger Syndrome (also called Asperger disorder) is a relatively new category of developmental disorder, having only been in use for about the past fifteen years. Although a group of children with this clinical picture were originally described in the 1940’s by a Viennese pediatrician, Hans Asperger, it has only been over the past several years that the term has become more widely applied; it entered the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders for the first time in the fourth edition published in 1994. Because Asperger syndrome (AS) is a new category with few comprehensive review articles in the medical literature to date, and because it is probably considerably more common than previously realized. I will attempt in this discussion to describe it in some detail and to offer suggestions regarding practical aspects of its management. Students with AS are not uncommonly seen in mainstream educational settings, although often undiagnosed or misdiagnonsed, so this is a topic of some importance for educational personnel as well for parents
Asperger Syndrome is the term applied·to the mildest and highest functioning end of whats known as the as the spectrum of pervasive developmental disorders (or the autism spectrum.) Like all conditions along that spectrum it is now felt to represent a neurologically-based disorder of development, most often of unknown cause in which there are deviations or abnormalities in three broad aspects of development social skills, the use of language for communicative purposes and certain behavioral and stylistic characteristics involving repetitive or pervasive features and limited range of interests. It is the presence of these three categories of dysfunctiong which can range from relatively mild to severe.· which clinically define all of the pervasive developmental from AS through to classic autism.
Asperger syndrome represents that portion of the PDD continuum which is characterized by higher cognitive abilities (at least normal IQ by definition. and sometimes ranging up into the very superior range) and by more normal language function compared to other disorders along the spectrum. In fact. the presence of normal basic language skills is now felt to be one of the criteria for the diagnosis of AS although there are nearly always more subtle abnormalities of speech and language present. Many researchers feel it is these two areas at relative strength that distinguish AS from other forms of autism and PDD and account for the better prognosis in AS. Developmentalists have not reached consensus as to whether there is any difference between AS and what is termed high functioning autism (HFA). Some researchers have suggested that the basic neuropsychological deficit is different for the two conditions. but others have been unconvinced that any meaningful distinction can be made between them. One researcher. Uta Frith. has characterized children with AS as having “a dash of autism.” This leaves room for some confusion regarding diagnostic terms. and it is likely that quite similar children across the country have been diagnosed with AS. HFA. or POD. depending upon by whom or where they are evaluated. In fact, since the symptoms are milder and less classic in AS. many children who would meet criteria for that diagnosis receive no diagnosis at all and are viewed as “unusual” or “just different”. Actually. many in the field believe that there is no clear boundary separating AS from children who are ” normal but different” The inclusion of AS as a separate category in the new DSM-4. with fairly clear criteria for diagnosis. should promote greater consistency of labeling in the future.
Epidemiology
The best studies that have been carried out to date suggest that AS is far more common than “classic” autism. Whereas autism has traditionally been felt to occur in about 4 out of every 10,000 children, estimates of Asperger syndrome have ranged as high as 20-25 per 10,000. That means that for each case of more typical autism, schools can expect to encounter several children with a picture of AS (that is even more. true for the mainstream setting. where most children with AS will be found). In fact. a careful, population-based epidemiological study carried out by Gillberg’s group in Sweden, concluded that nearly 0.7% of the children studied had a clinical picture either diagnostic of or suggestive of AS to some degree. Particularly if one includes those children who have many of the features of AS and seem to be milder presentations along the spectrum as it shades into “normal”, it seems not to be a rare condition at all.
All studies have agreed that Asperger syndrome is far more common in boys than in girls. The reasons for this are unknown. AS is fairly commonly associated with other types of diagnoses again for unknown reasons. including: tic disorders such as Tourette disorder. attentional problems, and mood problems such as depression and anxiety. In some cases there is a clear genetic component, with one parent (most often the father) showing either the full picture of AS or at least some of the traits associated with AS. Sometimes there will be a positive family history of autism in relatives. further strengthening the impression that AS and autism are related conditions . Other studies have demonstrated a fairly high rate of depression. both bipolar and unipolar, in relatives of children with AS suggesting a genetic link in at least some cases. It seems likely that for AS, as for autism, the clinical picture we see is probably influenced by many factors, including genetic ones. so that there is no single identifiable cause in most cases.
Definition
The criteria for a diagnosis of AS in the new DSM -4 include the presence of:
- Qualitative impairment in social interaction involving some or all or the following: impaired use of non-verbal behaviors to regulate social interaction, failure to develop age-appropriate peer relationships. lack of spontaneous interest in sharing experiences with others. and lack of social or emotional reciprocity.
- Restricted, repetitive, and stereotyped patterns of behavior, interests, and activities involving: preoccupation with one or more stereotyped and restricted pattern of interest, inflexible adherence to specific non-functional routines or rituals . stereotype or repetitive motor mannerisms. or preoccupation with parts objects.
These behaviors must be sufficient to interfere significantly with social or other areas of functioning. Furthermore. there must be no significant associated delay in either general cognitive function, self-help/adaptive skills, interest in the environment. or overall language development.
Christopher Gillberg, a Swedish physician who has studied AS extensively. has proposed six criteria for the diagnosis. elaborating upon the a criteria set forth in DSM-4. His six criteria capture, the unique style of these children, and include:
- Social impairment=extreme egocentricity, which may include:
–inability to interact with peers
-tack of desire to interact
-poor appreciation of social cues
–socially inappropriate responses
- Limited interests. preoccupations
–more rote than memorized
-relatively exclusive of other interests
–repetitive adherence
- Repetitive routines, rituals
–imposed on self, or
–imposed on others
- Speech and language peculiarities. such as:
–delayed early development possible but not consistently seen
–superficially perfect expressive language * [pen mark, must been figuring out my speech abilities]
–odd prosody, peculiar voice characteristics
–impaired comprehension including misinterpretation of literal and implied meanings
- Non-verbal communication problems. such as:.
–limited use of gesture
–clumsy body language
–limited facial expression. or inappropriate
–peculiar “stiff” gaze
–difficulty adjusting physical proximity
- Motor clumsiness
–may not be necessary part at the picture in all cases
Clinical Features
The most obvious hallmark of Asperger syndrome, and the characteristic that makes these children so unique and fascinating, is their peculiar idiosyncratic areas of “special interest”. In contrast to more typical autism. where the interests are more likely to be objects or parts of objects. in AS the interests appear most often to be specific intellectual areas. Often, when they enter school, or even before, these children will show an obsessive interest in an area such as math. aspects at science. reading (some have a history of hyperlexia–rote reading at a precocious age), or some aspect at history or geography, wanting to learn everything possible about that subject and tending to dwell on it in conversations and free play.
I have seen a number at children with AS who focus on maps, weather, astronomy, various types of machinery, or aspects of cars, trains, planes, or rockets. Interestingly. as far back as Asperger’s original clinical description in 1944. the area of transport has seemed to be a particularly common fascination (he described children who memorized the tram lines in Vienna down to the last stop). Many children with AS. as young as three years old, seem to be unusually aware of things such as the route taken on car trips. Sometimes the areas at fascination represent exaggerations of interests common to children in our culture, such as Nina Turtles, Power Rangers. dinosaurs. etc. In many children the areas of special interest wilt change over time, with one preoccupation replaced by another. In some children, however, the interests may persist into adulthood, and there are many cases where the childhood fascinations have formed the basis for an adult career, including a good number at college professors.
The other major characteristic of AS is the socialization deficit. and this, too, tends to be somewhat different than that seen in typical autism. Although children with AS are frequently noted by teachers and parents to be somewhat “in their own world” and preoccupied with their own agenda, they are seldom as aloof as children with autism. In fact. most children with AS. at least once they get to school age. express a desire to fit in socially and have friends. They are often deeply frustrated and disappointed by their social difficulties. Their problem is not a lack of interaction so much as lack of effectiveness in interactions. They seem to have difficulty knowing, how to”make connections” socially. Gillberg has described this as a “disorder of empathy” the inability to effectively “read” others’ needs and perspectives and respond appropriately. As a result. children with AS tend to misread social situations arid their interactions and responses are frequently viewed by others as “odd”.
Although “normal” language skills are a feature distinguishing AS from other forms of autism and PDD. there are usually some observable differences in how they use language. It is the more rate skills that are strong. sometimes very strong. Their prosody-those aspects of spoken language such as volume of speech, intonation, inflection, rate, etc, is frequently different. Sometimes the language sounds overly formal or pedantic, idioms and slang are often not used or are misused, and things are often taken too literally, slang are often not used or are misused, and things are often taken too literally. Language comprehension tends toward the concrete, with increasing problems often arising as language becomes more abstract in the upper grades. Pragmatic or conversational, language skills often are weak because of problems with turn-taking, a tendency to revert to areas of special interest, or difficulty sustaining the “give and take” of conversations. Most children with AS have difficulties dealing with humor, tending not to “get” jokes or laughing at the wrong time; this is in spite of the fact that quite a few show an interest in humor and jokes, particularly things such as puns or word games. perhaps hoping to be able to use humor as a way to fit in better socially.
Some children with AS tend to be hyperverbal. not understanding that this interferes with their interactions with others and puts others off. When one examines the early language history of children with AS there is no single pattern–some of them have normal or even early achievement of milestones. while others have quite clear early delays on speech with rapid catch-up to more normal language by the time of school entry. Frequently, particularly during the first several years. language features similar to those in autism are seen, such as perseverative or repetitive aspects to language use.
Asperger Syndrome Through the Lifespan
In his original 1944 paper describing the children who later came to be, described under his name. Hans Asperger recognized that although the symptoms and problems change over time, the overall problem is seldom outgrown. He wrote that “in the course of development, certain features predominate or recede; so that the problems presented change considerably. Nevertheless, the essential aspects of the problem remain unchanged. In early childhood there are the difficulties in learning simple practical skills and in social adaptation. These difficulties arise out of the same disturbance which at school age cause learning and conduct problems, in adolescence job and performance problems, and in adulthood social and marital conflicts.” On the other hand. there is no question that children with AS have generally milder problems at every age compared to those with other forms of autism. and their ultimate prognosis is certainly better. In fact, one of the more important reasons to distinguish AS from other forms of autism is it’s considerably milder prognosis.
The preschool child. As has been suggested above, there is no single, uniform , presenting picture of Asperger syndrome in the first 3-4 years. The early picture may be indistinguishable from that of more typical autism. suggesting that when evaluating any young child with autism and apparently normal intelligence, the possibility should be entertained that he/she may eventually have a picture more compatible with an Asperger diagnosis. something that I have seen on a number of occasions. Other children may have early language delays with rapid “catch-up” as they approach school age. Finally. some of these children, particularly the brightest ones, may have no evidence of early developmental delay except, perhaps, some motor clumsiness. In almost all cases. however, if one looks closely at the child between the age of about three and five years, clues to the diagnosis can be found. and in most cases a comprehensive evaluation at that age can at least point to a diagnosis along the PDD/autism spectrum. Although these children may seem to relate normally within the family setting, when they enter a preschool setting problems are often seen. These may include: a tendency to avoid spontaneous social interactions or to snow very weak, skills in interactions. problems sustaining simple conversations or a tendency to be perseverative or repetitive when conversing, odd verbal responses. preference for a set routine and difficulty with transitions. difficulty regulating social/emotional responses with anger, aggression, or excessive anxiety, hyperactivity. appearing to be “In one’s own little world”, and the tendency to overfocus on particular objects or subjects.
Certainly, this list is much like the early symptom list in autism or PDD. Compared to those children. however. the child with AS is more likely to show some social interest in adults and other children. will have less abnormal language and conversational speech. and may not be as obviously “different” from other children. Areas of particularly strong skills may be present. such as letter or number recognition, rate memorization of various facts, etc.
Elementary school. The child with AS will frequently enter kindergarten without having been adequately diagnosed. !n some cases. there wiil have been behavioral concerns (hyperactivity, inattention, aggression, outbursts) in the preschool years: there may be concern over “immature” social skills and peer interactions: the child may already be viewed as being somewhat unusual. If these problems are more severe, special education may be suggested. but probably most children with AS enter a more mainstream setting. Often. academic progress in the early grades, is an area of relative strength; for example, rote reading is usually quite good, and calculation skills may be similarly strong, although pencil skills are often considerably weaker. The teacher will probably be struck by the child’s “obsessive” areas of interest, which often intrude in the classroom setting. Most AS children will show some social interest in other children, although it may be reduced, but they are likely to show weak friend-making and friend-keeping skills. They may show particular interest in one or a few children around them, but usually the depth of their interactions will be relatively superficial. On the other hand. I have known quite a number of children with AS who present as pleasant and “nice”. particularly when interacting with adults. The social deficit. when less severe, may be under appreciated by many observers.
The course through elementary school can vary considerably from child to child, and overall problems can range from mild and easily managed to severe and intractable, depending upon factors such as the child’s intelligence level. appropriateness of management at school and parenting at heme. temperamental style of the child, and the presence or absence ot complicating factors such as hyperactivity/attentional problems, anxiety, learning problems, etc.
The upper grades. As the child with AS moves into middle school and high school, the most difficult areas continue to be those related to socialization and behavioral adjustment. Paradoxically. because children with AS are frequently managed in mainstream educational settings. and because their specific developmental problems may be more easily overlooked (especially if they are bright and do not act too “strange”), they are often misunderstood at this age by both teachers and other students. At the secondary level. teachers often have less opportunity to get to know a child well, and problems with behavior or work/study habits may be misattributed to emotional or motivational problems. In some settings particularly less familiar or structured ones such as the cafeteria, physical education class, or playground, the child may get into escalating conflicts or power struggles with teachers or students who may not be familiar with their developmental style at interacting. This can sometimes lead to more serious behavioral flare-ups. Pressure may build up in such a child with little clue until he then reacts in a dramatically inappropriate manner.
In middle school. where the pressures for conformity are greatest and tolerance for differences the least, these children may be left out. misunderstood, or teased and persecuted. Wanting to make friends and fit in., but unable to, they may withdraw even more, or their behavior may become increasingly problematic in the form of outbursts or non-cooperation. Some degree of depression is not uncommon as a complicating feature. If there are no significant learning disabilities, academic performance can continue strong, particularly in those areas at particular interest: often, however, there will be ongoing subtle tendencies to misinterpret information, particularly abstract or figurative/idiomatic language. In many cases they will have learning difficulties. and attentional and organizational difficulties may be present.
Fortunately, by high school peer tolerance for individual variations and eccentricity often increases again to some extent. It a child does well academically. that can bring a measure at respect from other students. Some AS students may pass socially as “nerds”, a group which they actually resemble in many ways and which may overlap with AS. The AS adolescent may form friendships with other students ‘who share his interests through avenues such as computer or math clubs, science fairs, Star Trek clubs, etc. With luck and proper management. many of these students will have developed considerable coping skills. “social graces”, and general ability to “fit in” more comfortably by this age. thus easing their way.
Asperger children grown up. It is important to note that we have limited solid information regarding the eventual outcome for most children with AS. It has only been recently that AS itself has been distinguished from more typical autism, in looking at outcomes. Nonetheless, the available data does suggest that, compared to other forms of autism, children with AS are much more likely to grow up to be independently functioning adults in terms of employment, marriage and family, etc.
One of the most interesting and useful sources of data on outcome comes indirectly from observing those parents (mostly fathers) of AS children, who themselves appear to have AS. From these observations it is clear that AS does not preclude the potential for a more “normal” adult life. Commonly. these adults will gravitate to a job or profession that relates to their own areas ot special interest, sometimes becoming very proficient. A number of the brightest students with AS are able to successfully complete college and even graduate school Nonetheless. in most cases they will continue to demonstrate, at least to some extent, subtle differences in social interactions. They can be challenged by the social and emotional demands of marriage. although we know that many do marry. Their rigidity of style and. idiosyncratic perspective on the world can make interactions difficult. both in and out of the family. There is also the risk of mood problems such as depression and anxiety, and it is likely that, many find their way to psychiatrists and other mental health providers where. Gillberg suggests. the true, developmental nature of their problems may go unrecognized or misdiagnosed.
In fact, Gillberg has estimated that perhaps 30-50% of all adults with AS are never evaluated or correctly diagnosed. These “normal Aspergers” are viewed by others as “just different” or eccentric, or perhaps they receive other psychiatric diagnoses. I have met a number of individuals whom I believe fall into that category, and I am struck by how many at them have been able to utilize their other skills, often with support from loved ones, to achieve what I consider to be a high level at function, personally and professionally. It has been suggested that some of these highest
functioning and brightest individuals with AS represent a unique resource for society, having the single mindedness and consuming interest to advance our knowledge in various areas of science, math, etc.
Thoughts on Management in the School
The most important starting point in helping a student with Asperger syndrome function effectively in school is for the staff (all who will come into contact with the child) to realize that the child has an inherent developmental disorder which causes him or her to behave and respond in a different way from other students. Too often, behaviors in these children are interpreted as “emotional” or “manipulative”, or some other term that misses the point that they respond differently to the world and its stimuli, It follows from that realization’ that school staff must carefully individualize their approach for each of these children: it will not work out to treat them just the same as other students. Asperger himself realized the central importance of teacher attitude from his own work with these children. In 1944 he wrote. “These children often show a surprising sensitivity ‘to the personality of the teacher …They can be taught, but only by, those who give them true understanding and affection. people who show kindness towards them and, yes, humour…The teacher’s underlying emotional attitude influences, involuntarily and unconsciously, the mood and behaviour of the child.”
Although it is likely that many children with AS can be managed primarily in the regular classroom setting, they often need some educational support services. If learning problems are present. resource room or tutoring can be helpful, to provide individualized explanation and review. Direct speech services may not be needed, but the speech and language clinician at school can be useful as a consultant to the other staff regarding ways to address problems in areas such as pragmatic, language. If motor clumsiness is significant, as it sometimes is, the school Occupational Therapist can provide helpful input. The school counselor or social worker can provide direct social skills training, as well as general emotional support. Finally. a few children with very high management needs may benefit from assistance from a classroom aide assigned to them. On the other hand, some of the higher functioning children and those with milder AS, are able to adapt and function with little in the way a normal support services at school.
There are a number at general principles at managing most children with PDD
of any degree in school, and they apply to AS as well:
- The classroom routines should be kept as consistent, structured, and predictable as possible. Children with AS often don’t like surprises. They should be prepared in advance, when possible, for changes and transitions. including things such as schedule breaks, vacation days, etc.
- Rules should be applied carefully. Many of these children can be fairly rigid about following “rules” quite literally. While clearly expressed rules and guidelines, preferably written down for the student, are helpful, they should be applied with some flexibility. The rules do not automatically have to be exactly the same for the child with AS as for the rest ot the students–their needs and abilities are different.
- Staff should take full advantage at a child’s areas of special interest when teaching. The child will learn best when an area of high personal interest is on the agenda. One can creatively connect the child’s interests to the teaching process. One can also use access to the special interests as a reward for the child.
- Most students with AS respond well to the use of visuals–schedules, charts, lists, pictures, etc.
- In general, try to keep teaching fairly concrete. Avoid language that may be misunderstood by the child with AS. such as sarcasm, confusing figurative speech, idioms. etc ., Work to break down and simplify more abstract language and concepts.
- Explicit, didactic training in strategies can be very helpful, to assist the child gain proficiency in “executive function” areas such as organization and study skills.
- Insure that school staff outside of the classroom, such as physical education teachers, bus drivers, cafeteria monitors, librarians, etc ., are familiar with the child’s style and needs and have been given adequate training in management approaches. Often, it is those less structured settings where the routine is broken and . expectations less clear that are most difficult for the child with AS.
- Try to avoid escalating power struggles. These children often do not understand blind shows of authority and will become more rigid and stubborn if forcefully confronted. Their behavior can then get rapidly out of control. and at that point it is often better for the staff person to back off and let things cool down.
A major area of concern as the child moves through school is to promote more appropriate social interactions and to help the child fit in better socially. Formal, didactic social skills training can take place both in the classroom and in more individualized settings. Approaches that have been most successful utilize direct modeling and role playing at a concrete level (such as in the Skillstreaming series), By rehearsing and practicing how to handle various social situations, the child can hopefully learn to generalize the skills to naturalistic settings. It is often useful to use a dyad approach where the child is paired with another to carry out such structured encounters. The use of a “buddy system” can be very useful. since these children relate best in a 1-1 setting. Careful selection of a non-handicapped peer buddy for the child can be a tool to help build social skills, encourage friendships, and reduce stigmatization. Care should be taken, particularly in the upper grades. to protect the child from teasing both in and out of the classroom, since it is one of the greatest sources of anxiety for older children with AS. Efforts should be made to help other students arrive at a better understanding of the child with AS, in a way that will promote tolerance and acceptance. Teachers can take advantage ot the strong academic skills that many AS children have, in order to help them gain acceptance with peers. It is very helpful if the AS child can be given opportunities to help other children at times.
Teachers should be alert to the potential for mood problems such as anxiety or depression, particularly in the older child with AS. Occasionally, medication with an antidepressant may be indicated if mood problems are significantly ‘interfering with the child’s function.’ Although most children with AS are managed without medication (medication does not “cure” any of the core symptoms), there are specific situations where medication can. on occasion. be useful. For example. problems with inattention for academics that are seen in some children can sometimes be helped by stimulant medications such as Ritalin. Occasionally, medication may be needed to address more severe behavior problems that have not responded to non-medical interventions: clonidine has proven helpful in such situations. and there are other options if necessary.
In attempting to put a comprehensive teaching and management plan into place at school, it is often helpful for staff and parents to work closely together, since parents often are most familiar with what has worked in the past for a given child. It is also wise to put as many details of the plan as possible into an Individual Educational Plan so, that progress can be monitored and carried over from year to year. Finally, in devising such plans, it can sometimes be helpful to enlist the aid of outside consultants familiar with the management of children with Asperger syndrome and other forms of PDD. such as Boces consultants, psychologists or physicians. In complex cases a team orientation is always advisable.
“Love shyness” and the Elephant in the Room
2023 Note: In 2012, the world was more innocent than a decade later. “Love-shyness” is actually a major part of the “Manosphere” and the incel community, Brian Gilmartin’s work is cited in the alpha vs. beta male description. There had been opinions that his work was fringe, and he was forced to go to Montana, and try to use the remaining credibility. Over a decade after writing this, I look at this that love-shyness from the originalist perspective (at that time 35 years ago) was people who were afraid of love, was on burnout much like the original intentions of the Incel USENET group. But when the incel and manosphere community started to take off by 2017, it was on anger, and attack on the other-side. MGTOWS and PUAs are extremely dangerous to the society and “love-shyness” as merged in part of the incel culture – the indiscriminate hate to women. Boy have some of my words gone moldy since…I hope men who have been extremely hurt and only anger is the PUA and MGTOW can take back the “Incel” name and make what it used to be
The most searched phrases in my search metrics, continues to be the whole theme can someone with autism fall in love, why autistic people can’t love, etc, etc.
I appreciate you people searching for that subject, because I still don’t have any ideas ether. It doesn’t help when the liberal elitists that knows it all when it comes to ASD and to the HFA population, because they don’t know everything because they create politics and ideals of what the population should be so the population gets screwed horribly.
Today, the focus will be on a subject known as “Love shyness.” It’s coined by Brian G. Gilmartin who wrote a book in 1987 and had “estimated that love-shyness afflicts approximately 1.5% of American males and will prevent about 1.7 million U.S. males from ever marrying or experiencing intimate sexual contact with women“*
*From a Wikipedia article entitled “Love-shyness” referenced in a cautious manner.
From the same source, he stated with his data collection various factors, such as temperament, history of being bullied, that the “love-shy’s life” had grown up in dysfunctional families, etc. Another striking fact was the
“men reported that their parents and societal attitudes pressured them into being “real boys” because of the men’s personalities as children. “
So here goes that “man-child” stereotype the rich bitches won’t want to touch with a 10 foot pole.
Also the social economic factor is shocking that
“As a result, all of the love-shy men were in the lower middle class or lower.”
My spin on that would be a “love-shyness” is probably a lot worse if one came up as a lower middle class and growing up in the Suburbia where a lot of girls are overprotected by their rich conservative leaning daddys. Hey, that’s worth shot I suppose.
After this book was originally published in the late 80s, he had confirmed that some of the cases may had been considered to be autistic or dare I say Asperger Syndrome. He had also responded to an email years after the publication that about 40% of the severely love-shy men would have AS or ADHD. And of course he probably at the time was ignorant about the high functioning cases of ASD or people who had severe cases of autism to be upgraded to a functioning equivalent of their peers.
Another piece would be is:
” He says in his book ‘Shyness is never ‘good’. Shyness obviates free choice and self-determination, and it stands squarely in the way of responsible self-control and self-management.’ Again, he states ‘Simply put, shyness is never healthy.'”
Well then try to educate the union thugs at the local liberal SPED programs in the public school system.
The takeaway is that “love-shyness”, however you want to slice and dice it, can be in some regards synthetic thanks to the excessive laws the Feds and state and local governments put into the special education classrooms. Oh, don’t get me started with the overzealous sexual harassment classes (where I don’t even think the mainstream classes even teach to begin with) and how the Hacks basically frame us as freaks and creeps and who else knows what kills our self esteem.
Not dismissing love-shyness, but some of this is made up thanks to the ever so complicated issue of high functioning autism and the blur between the evil side of Asperger’s and the HFAs who struggle in life and again the upbringing in the classroom and the unions and liberals POV of what the ASD community needs to be.
The unions and the public schools can really do us a favor if they can get laid off and deregulate the special ed system so people won’t have to go through what I went through becoming a synthetic hopeless romantic.
However, this is one’s own opinion. I can’t speak for the rest of the population. This may just be pure emotion and not thinking rationally. I think the politics of autism or whatever social disorder has gotten way out of hand, and instead of preaching on “love-shyness”, maybe there should be less liberals teaching social skills for a change.
Why in the f*** do we need to use "nerotypical"?
Or hell call it “NT”?
I know its a registered trademark of Nortel (Previously known as Northern Telecom), but Nortel has gone bankrupt and many of their businesses have gone on wholesale, so I don’t know what actual company might own the trademark. In fact its alleged that might had been the reason why Microsoft didn’t use the NT branding in Windows 2000 (and eliminating totally by Windows XP or NT 5.1) because of a potential lawsuit of Nortel.
I have so much opposition of such techno terminology of the whole hell known as the Autism Spectrum Disorders. For one thing, why in the hell do we need a “label” (for a lack of a better word) to describe the “normal” population. Are we afraid to degrade their potential or are we afraid to degrade the hack psych-o-logists and other “professionals” that had pissed a lot of money into an Ivy League education in the study of psych-o-logy?
This is beyond words like patently absurd. I just can’t get why such groups (mostly in the Asperger world – which is NOT autism) has to make such confusion.
Enough with the acronyms and abbreviations, enough with the technicality of the “labels” enough with having pride with a disorder that is technically unrelated with autism and please for the AS community, dont flaunt your pride that is similar to homosexual population. It’s just plain insulting to the legitimate group who is feeling ASHAMED instead of coming out of the closet as a super high functioning retard.
Autism Awareness Month – the cloud of confusion of "labels"
I gotta run for dinner and a walk in my neighborhood after a busy day of getting IT stuff back online after some scheduled outages done today. However, I wanted to embed a video from a YouTube user on the never ending drama with the classifications of the ASD, Asperger Syndrome and High Functioning Autism. Now I don’t agree with some of his thoughts of what is considered with the respective disorders, he makes some strong points during the majority of the video. Especially when one didn’t have a speech delay and they “automatically have Asperger’s”. It’s rather interesting YouTube piece that I strongly recommend.
Catcha later
Autism Awareness Month: A Post on WrongPlanet
From this blog’s inception, this is the first time I will be referencing one of the most weirdest of weird wide websites. I am talking about WrongPlanet.net.
WrongPlanet.net is a site for people (primarily with) Asperger Syndrome. The site is based and located here in the States however many (nearly 8 to 2 margin) of people located outside this country. They have a strong anti-American bias, a strong liberal bias (beyond progressive or the Moonbat status) and hatred to conservatives, or not even that anything traditional. When it comes to religion, its all virtually all hate to Christianity. And when it comes to tech, its all about Linux (then Mac OS then Windows), because according to those smartasses you can do everything on an operating system that lacks charisma.
Many of the users have “self diagnosed” themselves, another trait about the alleged cases of AS. If you think I was smart, well then I would be dumb when you would read posts after posts of extreme intelligence. I should also add many users are from “university”. So many of these people were probably socially weird and then they got a label to then define themselves.
Be careful if you ever go on there, there are some fiftysomething creeps on there.
WrongPlanet a few years ago, like this blog, was very critical of Autism Speaks. However as Autism Speaks realized they kinda went too harsh against the higher functioning autism, they started to partner with WrongPlanet. I bet it was the money talks, bleep walks. In anyway, my respect to WrongPlanet stopped after realizing that high functioning autism according to Autism Speaks was part of Asperger Syndrome.
In anyway we have more to blame the shame of Autism. Thanks WrongPlanet!